Q&A With Bill Campbell


Posted on Jun 15, 2008 By Glenn Close Comments(11)
Bill Campbell and Pax
Bill Campbell and Pax.

I started Lively Licks thinking that it would be a lot of fun to do amusing profiles of people and their dogs. After all, my family spends half their time talking about and laughing at our dogs. It's actually kind of shocking, but I guess it's better than talking about ourselves. What I didn't expect from Lively Licks is the constant revelation of just how much dogs give to us humans. I have been inspired and moved by one story after another, but never as much as I am by the story of Bill Campbell and Pax. What I find particularly moving is that, because of a program started by Puppies Behind Bars called "Dog Tags: Service Dogs For Those Who Have Served Us," Bill has been able to re-enter life, largely due to the constant presence of his service dog, Pax. Pax was first socialized and trained by Laurie Kellog, an inmate at the maximum security Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for Women (Laurie appears in the New York Times video that accompanies Bill's profile). So a dog, initially loved and trained by a woman who has lost her freedom, but wants to give back to society, is enabling the life of a veteran of the Iraq war who was imprisoned by his disabling injuries. The story speaks for itself.

Bill in his hooch in Iraq with the First Cavalry Combat Patch on his shoulder.
Bill in his hooch in Iraq with the First Cavalry Combat patch on his shoulder.
Glenn Close: Tell me a little about yourself before you went to Iraq---what kind of work did you do? What kind of hobbies did you like?

Bill Campbell: Before leaving for Iraq, I was a Fish Biologist for the state Department of Fish and Wildlife. I managed all the salmon stocks on the southwest coast of the state of Washington and in all the rivers and streams that flowed to the coast. It was a challenging and stressful job but rewarding. I knew I was doing something important for the environment and for future generations. Because of the work that I and my co-workers were doing, our children would have fish to catch generations from now.

quote 1I’ve lived in Washington my entire life except for those brief tours outside the state with the Army. I had graduated from college with my Bachelor’s Degree in 1986 and my Master’s Degree in 2001 and spent a total of 19 years working for the State. My hobbies prior to Iraq were many. I loved photography, reading, and the outdoors. I loved to hike, bike, and fly fish. I enjoyed exercising and was constantly in the gym and going for a run. I also really enjoyed educating myself and frequently took courses at the local college.

GC: When you came home from the war, what were you like?
BC: Whoever coined the phrase ‘War changes you,’ they were absolutely right. There is very little about myself that is the same. When I got back from Iraq I went back to my job at Fish and Wildlife. I worked for two years before the symptoms associated with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Traumatic Brain Injury forced me to leave. I still enjoy photography, but my disabilities, up to this point, have kept me homebound. Exercising, biking, and hiking, are all things in the past. I don’t read or attend classes because I cannot retain the information because of memory and attention problems.

Bill on duty in Iraq.
Bill on duty in Iraq.

You may be wondering about my experiences in Iraq. I volunteered to go by re-enlisting when my former National Guard unit of 10 years was mobilized. I felt I owed something to the military after they had done so much for me. Also, I felt that being an older, more experienced veteran, I might be able to bring home somebody who might not otherwise come home. I deployed in 2004 to Baghdad with 1-161 Infantry as a Cavalry Scout. I did many things while there such as convoy escorts, patrols, checkpoints, etc. My primary duty was to be one of four men responsible for the security of Forward Operating Base in the center of the city. Our base was located between the Green Zone and an Iraqi National Guard facility, so we were a favorite target for insurgent attacks. Car bombs and firefights were frequent.


In fact, there was almost never a day or night that passed without some kind of action. Regarding my Post Traumatic Stress and Traumatic Brain Injury diagnosis, my psychologists tell me that it is caused by traumatic and horrific events as well as extended exposure to life-threatening situations. A Traumatic Brain Injury is caused by a direct impact to the head or by some kind of blast effect. As for me, I saw and experienced terrible things in Iraq that I wish no one would ever have to experience. I’ve experienced what it is like to be near a car bomb when it goes off. It is indescribable. All I can say is, if you were to experience it, you will not forget it and will likely re-experience it in your dreams, as I do. My doctors tell me that my memory and attention problems are most likely due to the one serious head impact and multiple blasts I experienced in Iraq.

Pax
Pax
GC: How did Pax come into your life?
BC: My psychologist has a co-worker who received a dog from Puppies Behind Bars. The co-worker knew about the Dog Tags program and mentioned it to my psychologist. She in turn suggested to me that it might be something that I might have an interest in. She believed that a dog would be a good companion for me and would help me get out of the house more. So, I sent an email to Gloria at PBB. At first I was to receive a dog named Stevi, but that fell through at the last minute and they sent Pax to Colorado for final training instead.



Bill hasn't been to the library in years. Pax made it possible for him to be there.
Bill hasn't been to the library in years. Pax made it possible for him to be there.
GC: How long was the PBB training with Pax and what did it consist of? What was the biggest challenge?
BC: The training in Colorado was totally funded by PBB and contracted to Golden Kimba Service Dogs in Colorado. It was a two-week program. PBB flew both me and my wife to Colorado, where we learned how to handle Pax. Pat, the trainer at Golden Kimba, covered everything from dog maintenance like brushing teeth to entering and exiting elevators. We went to restaurants, theaters, grocery stores, hardware stores, pet stores, the mall, pretty much any scenario the trainer could think of that I might run into on my own. At the end of the two weeks, Pax and I were given a test to certify us as a team.

quote 2The biggest challenge for me was the pressure. I was used to sitting at home by myself. It was a big step for me just to get on a plane to go to Colorado let alone walk around in a mall, go to stores, take directions and try to remember it all.

Pax loves to chase down sticks.
Pax loves to chase down sticks.
GC: How would you define your relationship with Pax?
BC: We’re buddies. There’s this connection between us that defies logic. I talk to him and it’s almost like he is talking back. I’ll tell him an hour before dinner that I’ll give him a chew stick after dinner, and after dinner he’ll come over to me and say, “Hey buddy, you said I can have a chew stick.” I’ll look at him and know exactly what it is he is telling me and go and get it. He’ll stand behind me licking his chops.

GC: What is an activity that you can now do, with Pax's assistance, that you were unable to do before?
BC: I guess one thing that I do now that I didn’t do before is interact with people. Pax is a magnet for all kinds of people. They have all kinds of questions about him and about me. I have no choice but to interact with them. So, in a sense, I have become more social.

quote3Also, since coming back from Iraq I have a poor sense of personal security. Pax is an extra set of eyes and ears and a great set at that. I trust him to alert me if something is out of the ordinary. As a result, he has freed me to do things like go running or enjoy one of my favorite hobbies, photography. I have also gone with Pax to a couple family gatherings, something I have not done since coming back from Iraq. I tend to focus on Pax and not on my surroundings, he distracts me.

Bill's wife Domenica, his daughter Zoe, his youngest son William, and Pax.
Bill's wife Domenica, his daughter Zoe, his youngest son William, and Pax.
GC: What impact has Pax had on your family?
BC: He has become a full-fledged member of the family. The kids love the fact that Pax can go everywhere with us. It feels like he has always been here and I can’t imagine a time when he will not be with us. I know he has settled into the routine. If the routine changes, he’ll let you know with that confused look he has.

quote 4I think Pax has brought our family just a little bit closer together. It is hard to put my finger on just why that is but sometimes there is just something missing. You never knew something was missing because everything was so perfect. But then, one day, something is added and it’s perfect all over again.
GC: What is the biggest change that he has brought into your life?
BC: He is the companion I never had. I have never had a friend like him before. I don’t know if I can say it any plainer than that.

GC: What kind of car would Pax drive?
BC: A 1970 Dodge Charger, yellow of course. Pax is fast and he’ll run right through or over you, whatever, when he’s having a good time. Stay out of his way.

Pax loves this stuffed Mallard.
Pax loves this stuffed Mallard.
GC: What would be the title of his autobiography?
BC: Running Fast, Eating, and Sleeping
Subtitle: And Working Hard

GC: What musical instrument would he play?

BC: The Squeakee Toy. Is a squeakee toy a musical instrument?

GC: Do you think Pax has an opinion about cats?
BC: Definitely, he thinks our cat Link is another dog. Pax keeps bringing his toys to Link to play and he just stares back at Pax as if to say, “Don’t you know I’m a cat you fool?” Pax doesn’t listen. I think Link secretly likes the attention though.

Going to the movies for the first time.
Going to the movies for the first time.

GC: What would be his favorite movie?
BC: I guess I would say Crank. In the movie Chev Chelios played by Jason Statham, is poisoned and remains alive hyped up on adrenaline. Pax would love it because if he’s not sleeping, it’s the way he prefers to be, hyped up. He would really identify with Chev.

GC: If he were a famous person, who would he be?
BC: George Clooney, because he’s the best looking guy I can think of.

GC: Where does he sleep?
BC: He has a big pillow next to my bed. I appreciate him being close by when I have nightmares. In my dreams I hear terrifying sounds of combat, explosions and gunfire that are so amazingly loud it feels as though they are right next to me. When this happens it causes me to bolt up, breathing hard, frantically looking around. Then I see Pax. He’s calmly lying on his pillow sleeping. If there was an explosion or gunshot, Pax wouldn’t be lying down. I know instantly it was all in my mind and I begin to calm. Before, it would take me much longer to gain control of myself. It’s a small thing, but an amazing gift to me.

It’s fun to wake up in the morning and see him staring at me over the edge of the bed. Sometimes if I don’t wake up in time and he can’t wake me up he’ll walk over and lick my wife as if to say, “Will you wake that guy up?” Then he darts back over to my side of the bed and waits for her to wake me up. He’s so smart.

With the Olympic Mountains in the background, Bill sits with his oldest son Tony.
With the Olympic Mountains in the background, Bill sits with his oldest son Tony.

GC: What is your favorite thing to do with Pax?
BC: I like to get him all worked up so he runs around like some sort of kangaroo or something. He sort of squashes his body up when he’s running and then when he gets close to you he launches himself into the air right at you. He loves it if at the last minute you dodge out of the way. It’s just fuel for his fire. It gets him all the more worked up and he starts circling the yard at full speed.

GC: What is it about you that makes Pax most proud?
BC: I don’t really know. I keep asking him but he just stares at me with those big dark eyes he has. It’s like he’s purposefully not telling me. But if I had to guess, I’d say the loving commitment I have, and demonstrate, to my family, including Pax. If it’s within my means, I’d do anything for them if it’s in their best interest. Unfortunately, sometimes my kids' idea of what’s in their best interest isn’t exactly the same as mine. But, in their hearts, they know that. Pax doesn’t really care. Whatever he is doing at that moment is the best thing he’s ever done in his life. As long as you love on him, take him everywhere you go, play with him, take him out to go potty, and feed him, he’s the happiest pup on the planet.

Occasionally, I pick-up my daughter in front of her school at the end of the day. Imagine Pax going to some kind of doggy school, and at the end of the day I go to pick him up. When I pull up, I see him standing in front of the school with all his buddies shooting the breeze. I can’t hear what they're talking about but what I don’t know is, Pax is puffing up his chest and saying with pride, “That’s my dad.”

GC: What is it about Pax that makes you most proud?
BC: He’s such a good dog. Since getting him people tell me all kinds of stories about their own dogs and I have come to realize just how great a dog he is. I am just proud to know him and have him in my life.

VIDEO:

Women inmates at a New York prison are training puppies to help the disabled and returning war veterans. (View the original post on the NY Times.)



GC: Is there a question you would like to ask Pax?
BC: He’s been moved around so much in his life, I’d like to know if he realizes that this is his home forever. I think he does, but I’d like to ask him and to reassure him if needed.

Bill taking pictures with Pax.
Bill taking pictures with Pax.

Pax was raised at the Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for women in New York. Since he was raised in this type of facility, it was important to make sure Pax could properly interact with the outside world. Although the woman that raised Pax did an absolutely amazing job with him, volunteers were used for socialization. These volunteers took him to places like the mall, restaurants, the post office, the park, or wherever they felt might be helpful for his development. Pax was also taken to West Point for socialization and training. All volunteers gave progress reports to Puppies Behind Bars. As you can imagine, Pax might start to wonder where he was supposed to call home.

GC: What do you think is Pax's idea of perfect happiness?
BC: Perfect happiness for Pax is that brief moment when his meal is being prepared and he’s drooling on the floor, to the time when he’s finished eating.

GC: What is your idea of perfect happiness?
BC: This is a profoundly difficult question. My first thought was to truly BE in the present. Not living in the past or the future, but living in the here and now. But then I thought no, I lived that way out of necessity in Iraq much of the time and it was far from perfect happiness.

I guess I would say being with those you love most.

Bill and Pax relaxing at home. OK, they're not really relaxing, they're posing.
Bill and Pax relaxing at home. OK, they're not really relaxing, they're posing.

 

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I've never 'blogged' before but saw Glenn on the View & wanted to thank you both for providing this site for dog-lovers! I am 55 y.o. woman who lost 75% of my hearing in a car accident- but now have a 'hearing assistance service dog'- Kila ( a 4 y.o. tri-color corgi, who is also the current love of my life)! Hearing dogs are very special- alert me if someone approaches I'm not expecting, if a phone rings, alarms or doorbells, etc. Anyway, keep up the good work & thank you! - Bonnie
Posted By Bonnie
on Jun 16, 2008
What an inspiring story. I am so glad for Pax and you - to have found each other! Dogs are remarkable creatures. I can't imagine life without them. My son was born with a rare genetic disorder. Our six year old Westie, Buster, is wonderful with him. If we leave the room, he sits right next to our son so that he can pet him. While Buster lives for playtime and walks, he is so calm and gentle with our son. He is such a huge part of our family. Thank you for sharing your incredible story!
Posted By Holly
on Jun 17, 2008
this is a wonderful website - Thank you everyone that created it!! I do have a question. I know that there is training for several different types of service dogs (seeing eye dogs, hearing assistance dogs, etc) is that any type of training for dogs for people who have had strokes? My father suffered a series of pin strokes in 2005. He has Aphasia, a form of brain damage, and trouble walking (although he does refuse to use a walker and is working with a physical therapist right now to make his legs stronger). He loves being outside and all of my life, if he was at work, he was outside, cutting wood, mowing lawns, working on the veggie garden, etc. Since his strokes he is unable to alot of what he used to. We always had dogs when I was growing up - normally several of them, and normally ones that one of my brothers would rescue.. My parents currently don't have a dog, but would like to get one - my mother just doesn't want a puppy as she feels that a puppy would "just to be too much right now". (my mother is 66 and my father is 78) My mother would like a dog for company for my father while she is at work (just two days a week for a few hours), but also she would like one that would be able to alert her if there is something wrong with my father.
Posted By jennifer
on Jun 18, 2008
Very very cool! It is not surprising that the term "man's best friend" fits so very appropriately in this case as in many others. Dog is truly man and woman's best friend. Thank you, Bill, for sharing your heart warming story with us. In healthcare we see the amazing positive effect that bringing a dog on one of the units has on the patients and the staff alike. I am fortunate to have six that come rushing at me with love whenever I get home.~~woof~~
Posted By Debbie
on Jun 18, 2008
I would like to tell you about my husband Mervin and his dog Mysty. My husband has seizures and swears that Mysty knows about them. He has had her since 1993. So I am wanting to know if there might be available dogs that could assist him when he loses Mysty. She is a llasa opso. Not sure about spelling. We sense that she won't be with us much longer. I would love to surprise him with another pet before she dies. He is very sensitive to her and it would ease his grief if he knew he had another one like Mysty. Thanks
Posted By Julia
on Jun 18, 2008
I work with Glenn here at FetchDog - we're all so proud of this story and the visibility she's bringing to Bill's story.
Posted By Emily
on Jun 19, 2008
In response to Bonnie: Congratulations on so bravely leaping into your first blog and thank you for your comments. Bill, Jake and I had a lot of fun on The View. We had a lot of fun backstage in the hair and make-up room. Bill and Jake have spent a lot of time in rooms like that and just lay down and went to sleep, oblivious to all the girl-talk. it's fabulous that you and Kila found each other. Corgis are wonderfully smart and responsive dogs. I know she is making you feel safe and loved. Bravo to you both. FetchDog.com is a great adventure for me. I hope you will visit us a lot.
Posted By Glenn
on Jun 19, 2008
In response to Jennifer: I've talked to several friends and colleagues about where your parents can find a dog and have several suggestions that might help. Your parents can contact their local shelters and ask the volunteers to help them find a calm, well-behaved rescued dog. The volunteers will know the temperments of all the dogs in their care and might very well have the perfect one. The dog would be eternally grateful for a home and would be well beyond the puppy stage. There is a non-profit organization called "Good Dog Foundation" that brings therapy dogs into the homes of stroke victims. They can be contacted online. You can also check out Assistance Dogs International (ADIonline.org) and see if one of their organizations close to your parents has any suggestions. Good luck. I think it would make a big difference in your parent's quality of life if they can find a great dog to be your father's friend and companion.
Posted By Glenn
on Jun 19, 2008
In response to Julia: There is a lot of data out there about a dog's ability to predict seizures so Melvin's beloved Misty is in good company. It proves how strong and sensitive the bond between man and dogs can be. I think a good place to start looking for a dog to carry on when Misty is no longer able to is the following website: http://www.epilepsy.com/articles/ar_1063676431 They list several organizations that actually train seizure alert dogs. I also suggest that you speak to the volunteers at your local shelters. They might have a sweet, well-behaved dog that would be eternally grateful for the fact that it's been adopted and that could get as close to Melvin as Misty is now. You never know. Melvin will go through a period of real grief when Misty goes, but, I'm sure will eventually find comfort in the presence of whatever wonderful dog you find. Good luck.
Posted By Glenn
on Jun 19, 2008
First, thank you Orange County Register for your article on this website. Thank you fetchdog.com for carrying the anti-bloat bowl - and at a price that's affordable! The story of Bill and Pax is a something everyone should read. I'm inspired by it and am glad that a portion of sales will go to helping to get more service dogs to returning military personnel. God Bless You! Clorinda Lordan/Huntington Beach, CA
Posted By clorinda
on Jun 23, 2008
today is July 4th and I just found your site - what luck! Thank you Ms. Close for providing the space for those who love dogs to express their love and be able to purchase items that ultimately benefit others! The video of Pax and Bill is inspiring and again confirms my belief in the comfort and connection between humans and canines, as if this needed confirmation! I work with NEADS, Dogs for Deaf and Disabled Americans in Princeton, MA., a 30 year old non-profit. We also use prisons throughout New England to train our canine partners, reducing training time in half while supporting the prisoners who yearn for more meaning and purpose. We also have a program called Canines for Deaf and Disabled Americans (now 2 years old) that gives dogs to wounded veterans returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at no charge. We have now graduated 9 Veteran assistance dog teams as of our graduation in Boston on June 22nd and many more Veterans await our assistance. We are currently exploring pairing dogs with partners with PTSD. I read comments about dogs assisting with seizure victims and second the belief that dogs have an innate ability to detect seizures and protect their partners until the seizure passes. Also, dogs are recognized as able to detect cancer, in many cases, far in advance of their human partners awareness. NEADS provides service dogs anywhere in the US, and our mission is to help those with autism, wounded veterans, children or adults and those with hearing loss or diminshed mobility. Thank you again for this wonderful site, and the compassionate recognition of the value of a loving canine companion. Many of us who are dog lovers feel their love and hope others treat them humanley while benefiting from their willingness to be our companions. Happy July 4th! John Moon
Posted By John
on Jul 4, 2008
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I have been known for many years as an actress and, as you probably know, have played some characters who have not always treated animals – especially dogs – kindly. The truth is that I have been surrounded by dogs my entire life and am a better human being because of it. Our dogs love us and keep us laughing through good times and bad. This blog is a tribute to all the fabulous dogs who trot and wag their way through our lives and to the people who they have so successfully trained.

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